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JGoudy

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I am running Vista Ultimate and am using Promash.  I can create Recipes and Brew Sessions from within Promash, but if I go to Vista Explorer to back up the files...they aren't there.  I can see them in the explorer within Promash whenever I open one up, but not it Vista explorer.  I really wouldn't care if I just used them from within Promash, but I would like to back up the files.  In addition to this, I can just see the horror of installing service pack one and those files vanish from within Promash as well.  Does anyone have any clue what is happening?  Right now I have no way of even selecting a "save file as" so that I can back them up in an alternate location.  I would settle for any work-around at this point.  I would hate to lose my data.

Thanks for your help.

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GilaMinumBeer

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For routine backups, I zip the entire ProMash directory and then copy it to a disc. This way you not only save recipes data, but also the other databases within ProMash (Hops, Water, Grain, Brew Sessions, etc...)

I do use Windows 98 tho' and I am not familiar with Vista, at all.

Hope this offers some help.

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JGoudy

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Well...sortof.  That was how I was backing up my files as well.  Now with Vista, it is "now you see 'em, now you don't"  I did a global search for anything *.brw related just for the sessions and the new recipes show up as shortcuts to that directory as if it was in the Recent Folder list.  When I click on the link, it says that the file isn't found...however it is still viewable from within Promash.

JGoudy

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I hate for this thread to die unanswered as I am still pretty freaked out at the possibility of losing all of my files.  Is there some kind of work around where I could change a file reference in an *.INI file or some such to save it in another location so that I can back them up?  I spend a lot of time taking notes in this program and would hate for it all to go away.

Thanks in advance for the help.
Bernard

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I'd hate to see this thread die before you get an answer too, so let me see if I can be at least a little helpful...

 

I'm running the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate and can see my ProMash files just fine (I have other issues with ProMash that I can't get anyone at ProMash to acknowledge, but I've got a separate thread for that).

 

Where are you trying to save your files?  ProMash's default file paths are setup to save your user data in the application installation directory here:

C:\Program Files (x86)\ProMash\ .  So although it may sound silly, my first recommendation is to really make sure you are looking for you files in the right place. 
 
If you still can't find them try using the search field in the upper right hand corner of Windows Explorer to find one of your recipes.  It may not find it right away because it typically doesn't expect to find user data down in Program Files or other places it hasn't indexed.  To really search everywhere use the Advanced Search options to search Location = Everywhere and set the Include non-indexed (etc.) checkbox.  Yeah, this may be slow, but it should find your files.  I just tested it to successfully find one of the sample recipes that ships and installs with ProMash.

 

Aside from all that, you can (and I would argue should), set ProMash up to store your data where that stuff really belongs in the first place: in your Documents folder.  This will both simplify both your backup scenarios and dramatically reduce the chance of some update ore service pack or whatever wiping out your data.  To do this, open ProMash and choose Options > System Settings > Default File Folders and pick new locations for your data somewhere in C:\Users\<your account>\Documents.

 

I hope that helps.

 



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JGoudy

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Eureka!  Thank you so much Bernard!  The advice to use the super-ultra-mega-advanced search was the ticket.  Vista is too darn smart...it thinks.  It was storing the files in the following path:

C:\Users\**My User-name**\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\ProMash\Recipes

It only says C:\Program File~1... and the rest of the path in the file properties in Promash.  It looks right as it doesn't say C:\Users... like it should.  And the weirdest part about it is, is that it was including a bogus shortcut to the actual file that was in the correct directory...but the shortcut didn't lead anywhere.  It knew that it was supposed to be there, but couldn't figure out where it was.

I don't know what it was thinking but this was exactly the problem.  I just had to fix the path to reflect the historical database locations and copy those files from the "virtual" location.  Now all of my files are in their rightful places safe and sound   And I can back them up!

Thanks again!  Now I can forget about the computer again and get back to brewing!


Cubbie

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I will have to look into this, I also have the same issue.  I was sure I was navigating to the correct directory, but perhaps not.
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