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Hibou

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Hi Jeffrey,

Why don't you make ProMash open source and distribute it under the GPL? If you do that, hundreds of enthusiastic brewers and programmers around the world can help you to enhance the (allready terrific) application and port it to Linux, MacOS and other platforms. Many people would be happy to make translations into their language. You could still be the spider in the web and recieve donations from grateful users.

I am using Linux now and I am amazed at the quality of the open source applications I can get. Much of them are even better than propietary software. You can say I am a believer in open software now.

What language is Promash written in?
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The current version is Straight C wrapped with the C Windows API. I gotta tell you am not a big fan of open-source....I work for a living and don't generally like to give that work away for free. I've paid many consultants for some of the proprietary math in this and future versions of ProMash and I don't intent to give that away. So anyway, don't really want to get into a long discussion about it, I've been coding a long time and did the free-ware share-ware open-sores thing on other projects and it just is not something I'm that interested in for ProMash.

 

With THAT said, we will at some point here be offering a different route for developers who want to work with or expand ProMash and it's core functionality on multiple platforms. So check in every once and awhile for news on that.

 

- Jeff

 

 


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Will ordinary users be able to benefit from what others have been allowed to develop?

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If they choose to share it, yes. I can't say what people will develop, or how they will make it available (if they do) only that yes, it is out intention that 3'rd party apps are developed for the brewing community at large.

 

Cheers!

 

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My BIGGEST complaint with ProMash (all of the others are extremely small) is that it is touted in many magazines and on-line forums to run under WINE in Linux.  The statement itself is true, but deceptive.  It runs... but not great.  I run only Linux at home... you can call me a Linux Nazi if you like.  I fight Windows problems all day at work and am not about to fight them at home in my free time

That being said, being an IT professional, I have started writing my own web version (OS agnostic) of brew software...  It is extremely complicated.  I do this sort of thing in a telecommunications company all day, and brewing is still difficult  The folks here at ProMash provide an excellent product at an excellent price (yes, I own a copy). 

I hope that as more people turn to Linux as an OS for their PC; ProMash will devote some time to porting it to Linux or addressing the WINE issues.

JDonovan.. open source continues to evolve don't discount it forever

Maybe ProMash could release a stable version and abandon it.  I'm sure the opensource community would rally and pick it up (as long as its GPL'd, Hell, I'd probably learn C to help out).  My research indicates there are multiple (at least 5, most likely 10 or more) open source projects trying to tackle this issue.

I understand that this decision may be economical as well as philisophical.  Your choice to not GPL a version is quite understandable....

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ProMash IS stable under the environment it is was written for. I have only claimed that it is compatible with Wine, which it is. The biggest problem I see is so many flavors/configuration possibilities that getting it to be stable on any particulat Linux box may be a challenge, but again, ProMash was NOT written for Linux, it was written for Windows and under THAT it is completely stable. So I guess maybe it's WINE and not ProMash that is NOT performing tha way it should.

 

I have not nor will I tout the robustness of ProMash (running under Linux) in ANY forum or in ANY magazine, but I cannot control other peoples opinions or what they might say regarding the subject.

 

and FYI I'd rather pull out all my teeth than make anything open-sores. Not trying to be flippant, that's just the way I feel after 22+ years in the software industry. I don't give away my work, period.

 

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- Jeff

 

 


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anthony

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Would you consider selling the Promash source then? In the past many projects have been bought by a community to be extended and developed further (Blender, as an example)
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i don't know anyone that works for free
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