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frandog

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Oh yes, I do that inadvertent touch pad tap REGULARLY while typing, and it is very, very annoying.  I can't even feel the touch, so I'm always surprised when it happens.  I'd swear that thing detects skin proximity, and not an actual tap!

 

Francisco

 

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I haven't tried it on my laptop, yet.  I use the main computer, which is a desktop, I have one of those "natural" keyboards (not a Microsoft or Logitech, but similar).  No touchpad on the desktop keyboard and the mouse is far enough away that I can't touch it while I'm typing.

 

I'll see what happens with the laptop and if the problem goes away, then I'll start to think about interaction between the program and Windows XP Pro.  I'm running W2K on the laptop, so maybe there will be a difference.  I'll let you know.

 

Thanks to both of you sticking with me on this.

 

 

Hophead

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I think Joe and I are having the EXACT same problem!  Let me see if I can expand on what is happening to him/us.

I notice problems right away because I start each bullet with a dash.  As soon as I type a dash, the cursor moves the start of the line and stays there until I type another letter.  THEN, it leaves the dash at the end of the line (I have to actually finish the sentence with a dash in order to get it to appear to "begin" with a dash). 

After every space, the cursor goes to the beginning of the line until another character is typed, which it places correctly.  UNLESS it is a period.  As soon as you type a period it places it at the beginning of the line, until you type another character.  BUT, how can you ever end a sentence?  You have to type another character to get the period to show up at the end! 

I just tested that out, and by "another character" I mean a number or letter.  If you type anything above the numbers, or "shifted" punctuation on the keyboard it will keep putting it/them at the beginning of the line.  VERY strange.

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honestly, due to that type of edit control, i believe that you guys may have installed another program on your computer that put a different version of a shared dll on your computer.   i've asked around the brewclub and no one has been able to replicate that on dozens of computers.... 
Hophead

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I have wondered about that.  If it is a shared dll problem, do you think that uninstalling and reinstalling Promash will fix the problem?  Does Promash have any of it's own dll's or could it be a system dll?
Jerms

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promash isn't the problem,  something else has replaced or overidden a system dll that promash is expecting...

installing promash on a clean machine exhibits the correct behavior..

Hophead

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OK...I admit I have very limited knowledge on this topic of dll's.  Is it possible that Jeff knows which dll's Promash uses, or would use in this situation?  This is quite an annoying problem.  I could try and find the original dll from the Windows XP files if I knew which ones it was using.  Does it use a lot of them?  Can we narrow it down to a few possible problem dlls?
bhuntley

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I realise this is an old thread but I just purchased the ProMash software and I am seeing the same issue.  I am running on an IBM Thinkpad using XP Pro.  Do we know what shared libraries may be causing this issue?  Whar dll's are used by ProMash?

Hophead

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There has been no solution on this topic.  Jeff has been silent.  I don't think enough people have had the problem to warrant anyone digging into it.  It is hard to duplicate on someone else's machine.  It appears to have to do with a conflict on some people's computer with a file that Promash uses, but THAT type of problem sounds like one that could take a LOT of digging to solve.  I don't know enough about the files that Promash uses.  I would think it would have something to do with the fonts, but that's just a guess.  Anyone?
jwaldner

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I recently bought the program and am having the same trouble.


 


When I type in the Problems field my cursor jumps from the end of the line to the beginning of the line. If I type a complete sentence such as


 


"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country." (without the quotes)


 


I can't enter the period at the end of the sentence. It places it at the beginning.


 


It's really more annoying than anything.

JDonovan

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Yes I've been a little silent on the subject because quite simply, we just can't replicate it here. I do realize the people who are encountering the problem are not imagining it,  but until I can track the exact root of the problem (or even see the problem happen) there is little I can do.....There is nothing in ProMash itself that would explain it...

 

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Jeff,

Thanks for your response.

 

I believe I may have figured it out! When I right click in the "Problems" field I notice a default check set for "Right to left Reading order." If I select this and uncheck it. I can then type without having this issue.

 

I've checked the other fields and they don't seem to have this set as the default.

 

I think the programs default for this field needs to be changed to mimic the other fields.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jay

 

P.S. If I'm right, I 'll take a Hefeweizen!

Hophead

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Jeff,

Thanks for your response.

 

I believe I may have figured it out! When I right click in the "Problems" field I notice a default check set for "Right to left Reading order." If I select this and uncheck it. I can then type without having this issue.

 

I've checked the other fields and they don't seem to have this set as the default.

 

I think the programs default for this field needs to be changed to mimic the other fields.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jay

 

P.S. If I'm right, I 'll take a Hefeweizen!



Holy Hefe!  I believe he is correct!  Sure enough, mine defaults to that same selection.  If I uncheck that line, everything types and reads as it should.  But, if I close out that session and open it back up it has defaulted back to "Right to left Reading order."  This brings up 2 questions:

1)  Why is it only doing this for some people, and not everyone?

2)  How do we get it to default to "Left to Right" reading order and stay there?
paulie

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This problem has just begun happening on my system. I thought I was seeing things. Never happened before, even as I moved Promash from machine to machine, changed from Win95 to Win2K to XPPro, reinstalled XPPro a couple of times, installed and uninstalled countless apps and development tools, etc. No recent new installs on the box that I can think of. So my guess is that MS fixed some bug which used to cause the "reading order" property to be ignored and that the patch was auto-installed on my machine recently. If so, it will start to show up on a lot of machines soon.

JDonovan

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Yea this was a good find!  I believe also that yes, possibly some fix MS issued although I'm still a little baffled as this machine here is fully up to date (XP Pro with all updates) and I don't have the problem.

 

In any case, yes that note field has the reading order set wrong. I'm still mulling over how to address it as the fix requires a new build and release, etc. Gimme another week and I will post up something here, if anything just a fix for users who have the problem....

 

- Jeff

 

 


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